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Friday, May 09, 2003 ... I swear. Am I just personally the biggest imbecile alive? Or do people just want to fight for the heck of fighting? What the hell is this! heh. AM [12:35 AM]: I stopped by today, did your sister tell you Lin [12:35 AM]: yeah Lin [12:35 AM]: she said you didn't knock though?? AM [12:35 AM]: the door was wide open AM [12:35 AM]: what do you expect Lin [12:36 AM]: hm. that's strange AM [12:36 AM]: yeah Lin [12:36 AM]: still.. there's a doorbell AM [12:36 AM]: well the door was open Lin [12:36 AM]: I don't know.. it just scared her, and I guess my mom too AM [12:36 AM]: you dont have a screen, if you have a screen id use the doorbell Lin [12:36 AM]: because they didn't realize someone had just walked in AM [12:36 AM]: well get a screen Lin [12:36 AM]: a screen? AM [12:36 AM]: well good thing I wasnt a robber AM [12:36 AM]: a screen door Lin [12:37 AM]: oh I see..yeah AM [12:37 AM]: Where I grew up, if someones front door was open you can walk in Lin [12:38 AM]: oh, well, ok. I'm just saying.. it kind of scared them AM [12:38 AM]: I cant do anything about it Lin [12:39 AM]: you could knock? AM [12:39 AM]: I nocked on the door leading to your room since the door was partially closed AM [12:39 AM]: yeah, not of my culture Lin [12:39 AM]: yeah, well, learning new things for proper-etiquette is never a bad thing.. Lin [12:39 AM]: hehe.. you'll be doing that a lot in Germany probably AM [12:39 AM]: thats a bunch of shit AM [12:40 AM]: proper ettiquitte....lol AM [12:40 AM]: you dont know what that is Lin [12:41 AM]: I know enough to get by 'properly' AM [12:42 AM]: I dont think so Lin [12:42 AM]: and it's not [a bunch of shit] if you ever want to be accepted nicely into other 'cultures' AM [12:42 AM]: If you dont want people to walk into your house, dont leave it open Lin [12:42 AM]: why don't you think so? AM [12:43 AM]: see above Lin [12:43 AM]: what if the door was accidentally opened by the wind because it didn't shut all of the way? Lin [12:43 AM]: You should just walk in? AM [12:43 AM]: Its really not my problem, its yours AM [12:43 AM]: yeah AM [12:43 AM]: because i wouldnt know that Lin [12:43 AM]: no it's not because you're the one who scared my sister and mom today Lin [12:43 AM]: how's that MY problem? AM [12:43 AM]: if a bug or a critter can get in, then why not a good friend? Lin [12:43 AM]: well now you do. AM [12:43 AM]: good thing Im not a robber or a criminal Lin [12:44 AM]: heh.. it doesn't matter who you are AM [12:44 AM]: bull shit Lin [12:44 AM]: good thing someone wasn't like, getting dressed AM [12:44 AM]: oh well, ive seen naked people before Lin [12:44 AM]: what the heck does that have to do with the point here? AM [12:45 AM]: you fucked up, the door was open...thats not my fault Lin [12:46 AM]: I never put any *fault* on you here AM [12:46 AM]: people, in general, that leave their doors open/unlocked are just asking for trouble Lin [12:46 AM]: I was just informing you that they were a little scared, and instead of using that information positively, you just went defensively AM [12:46 AM]: if your dorm room was open, I guarentee you someone would walk right in AM [12:46 AM]: thats not my problem Lin [12:46 AM]: and if you want to avoid a similar circumstance in the future, maybe you should try looking at what I'm saying in a positive perspective AM [12:47 AM]: no I dont think so Lin [12:47 AM]: well do it again and it will be your problem, because now you know Lin [12:47 AM]: but I was never saying it was your problem initially AM [12:47 AM]: what if a skunk came in AM [12:47 AM]: buy a fucking screen door Lin [12:48 AM]: What the fuck does a skunk have to do with you now having information to not make the same mistake again? Lin [12:48 AM]: I'm sorry, but I think you're just resorting to pointless remarks which have nothing to do with what I'm saying here. AM [12:49 AM]: no I dont think so Lin [12:49 AM]: ok well I don't care what you think then. AM [12:49 AM]: ok, think if a robber or rapist came into your home today, they arent going to nock AM [12:49 AM]: at least I am a decient person that had good intentions of seeing if you were around Lin [12:49 AM]: Soo.. what? AM [12:49 AM]: get a fucking screen AM [12:50 AM]: its not 1870 Lin [12:50 AM]: good.. fine.. I can understand that.. AM [12:50 AM]: its 2003 AM [12:50 AM]: your dad can handle that, he did a skylight Lin [12:50 AM]: I can understand that, but I'm just saying, I couldn't if you did it again. AM [12:50 AM]: oh bull shit AM [12:50 AM]: you dont have proper ettiquitee Lin [12:50 AM]: ok. well you don't have proper arguments. Lin [12:51 AM]: therefore anything you say about my etiquette is invalid because your arguments are flawed. AM [12:51 AM]: I think not. AM [12:51 AM]: no AM [12:51 AM]: its all about perspective AM [12:51 AM]: get real 'Lin' AM [12:51 AM]: think of 'your university' Lin [12:51 AM]: and you're the root of the problem. yes. and it is. and you don't have it right now. AM [12:51 AM]: if your door was open, people would come right in you know that Lin [12:52 AM]: if the argument is flawed, your reasoning is flawed, and whatever you're saying right now is flawed. AM [12:52 AM]: I dont think so Lin [12:52 AM]: if my door was open I'd be in my room, with the door open Lin [12:52 AM]: and people would just see me AM [12:52 AM]: listen: If you dont want people to walk in, dont leave the door open Lin [12:52 AM]: but if my door were closed.. people would knock AM [12:52 AM]: yeah, theyd walk in AM [12:52 AM]: same shit AM [12:52 AM]: exactly Lin [12:52 AM]: and my room wouldn't be open without me in it AM [12:52 AM]: thanks for proving my point AM [12:53 AM]: your house was open, people were in it Lin [12:53 AM]: walking around to greet you? AM [12:53 AM]: i nocked on your door, it was partially closed Lin [12:53 AM]: I'm just saying. It's common courtesy to knock whatever-the-circumstance. There's no need to go into some superfluous argument here. AM [12:54 AM]: no its not courtesy Lin [12:54 AM]: yes it is because it's not your home and homes are for privacy AM [12:54 AM]: then put up a gate and a greeter at the end of the drive Lin [12:54 AM]: it's not necessary because we leave our door shut most of the time AM [12:55 AM]: i dont know that Lin [12:55 AM]: and in the rare-case that it isn't.. you still should knock and see if someone responds Lin [12:55 AM]: AND NOW YOU DO. Lin [12:55 AM]: that's all! AM [12:55 AM]: 'Lin', get real...look what I wrote you, it makes perfect sense AM [12:55 AM]: I think if the doors wide open, its ok to walk in, if it wasnt, the screen woudl be up Lin [12:56 AM]: here's what you wrote: not my culture, get a screen, you're right, what if a skunk walked in, why can't you if a bug can..? etc AM [12:56 AM]: you=good friend Lin [12:56 AM]: since we don't have a screen.. we didn't exactly have an option Lin [12:57 AM]: yeah I understand.. but still just randomly walking into a house jsut scared them.. and I'm not saying "OMG That was just awful!".. I'm just saying knock next time AM [12:57 AM]: thats their fauld Lin [12:58 AM]: stop trying to blame everyone else Lin [12:58 AM]: it was NO ONE'S FAULT AM [12:58 AM]: blaming AM [12:58 AM]: I think not Lin [12:58 AM]: Why do you keep trying to put fault into this? AM [12:58 AM]: so drop it Lin [12:58 AM]: I already have.. I was just saying knock next time.. and you still couldn't just say.. 'ok' AM [12:59 AM]: I already have.. I was just saying knock next time.. and you still couldn't just say.. 'ok' AM [12:59 AM]: you just brought it back up Lin [12:59 AM]: yeah so that I know you understand our 'culture's' expectations now. Lin [12:59 AM]: because you *still* have not given me any sign that you understand. Lin [12:59 AM]: but whatever afterawhile. AM [1:02 AM]: ... AM [1:05 AM]: yeah, my friends say you are wrong AM [1:07 AM]: get used to california culture Lin [1:07 AM]: well if your friend wants to 'debate' about something with me about your wrong viewpoint,.. then fine AM [1:07 AM]: thats how thigns work there AM [1:07 AM]: you are being so childish Lin [1:08 AM]: I don't need to because I'm not living in California.. my family is not living in California Lin [1:08 AM]: you are in ARIZONA 'AM' AM [1:08 AM]: yeah whatever AM [1:08 AM]: stop making excuses AM [1:08 AM]: when someone walks in your front door and steals your shit, what are you going to say to them AM [1:08 AM]: oh please nock AM [1:08 AM]: yeah right Lin [1:09 AM]: are robbers trying to be 'courteous'? AM [1:10 AM]: what? Lin [1:10 AM]: I'm saying FOR PROPER ETIQUETTE... I.E.. to be COURTEOUS... you should knock... and i don't know about California.. Lin [1:10 AM]: but you're in Arizona.. so welcome to the culture AM [1:10 AM]: you know what, put up a screen door AM [1:10 AM]: problem solved AM [1:10 AM]: if you had a screen door I would always nock AM [1:10 AM]: obviously I am not a friend of you if its this big of a deal Lin [1:11 AM]: we don't want a screen door because it's not necessary in our culture Lin [1:11 AM]: heh.. I enjoy my privacy no matter who my friends are Lin [1:11 AM]: I think it's good to knock because then you're not trespassing AM [1:11 AM]: in san diego we didnt want people in so we were kind enough not to mislead people and put up a security screen Lin [1:12 AM]: because if no one was in the house.. and you just welcomed yourself to any room in our house.. you would be trespassing AM [1:12 AM]: whatever, fuck it AM [1:12 AM]: get real Lin [1:12 AM]: and if you want to argue that about 'culture'.. then go take business law and figure out what the LAW is AM [1:12 AM]: no I think not AM [1:12 AM]: you dont know shit about business law Lin [1:12 AM]: well I don't think you know. AM [1:12 AM]: actually I do Lin [1:12 AM]: haha. ok. but you do. AM [1:12 AM]: tresspassing is very hard to prove Lin [1:13 AM]: oh really? And do you have any solid proof of this? AM [1:13 AM]: yeah, but Im not going to waste any more of my time dealing with an issue like this which has so little importance Lin [1:13 AM]: because I know it's not hard to prove Lin [1:14 AM]: you're the one who brought it up again. AM [1:14 AM]: I asked if you got my message, you didnt even say yes, you went straight to this whole door nocking shit Lin [1:15 AM]: anyway. AM [1:15 AM]: AM I YOUR FRIEND? Lin [1:16 AM]: yes but that doesn't give you the automatic right to walk into my house because the rest of my family is not comfortable with it AM [1:17 AM]: well from an outsiders perspective. If you like privacy, shut your door and close your windows, and put up a screen, I am sure that if the door was closed or half closed, I would have nocked because in the past, the door was half closed, and I did indeed nock, have you know. AM [1:18 AM]: pretty basic Lin [1:18 AM]: ok, we'll keep that in mind. but for your future reference.. knock. AM [1:19 AM]: sure thing Alright. So things were resolved somewhat. Good. I was beginning to think there for a moment this was insane that we couldn't just come to some sort of mutual understanding. . . . babbled Lin |
